In this episode, Adam and Steve finally meet a real university president. Dr. Dan Scholz from Cardinal Stritch University joins the show to share his journey, the vibe at Stritch, and the fun in designing your future AND your degree. Learn more about what inspires Dr. Dan’s work and why in the world he wakes up at 4AM. He even gets real honest on how higher ed is not for everyone. Take a listen, then jump over to to learn more.

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